Recently I am gravitating to the Clint Smith theory of cartridge, gun and reloading; that is the one caliber, one load, one gun MO in order to simplify inventories, procedures, lower costs and increase fun time. Even adapted a supersonic load using WC820 from the .30 carbine. They are jacketed, tipped, and cored for the best possible ballistic coefficient. If you need a subsonic round from a company with a top reputation, you can't go wrong with these. This increases reliability with semi-automatic firearms. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. 16" carbine,pistol length gas port at .110. He took his first turkey and mule deer at age 6 and his first bull elk at age 9. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. . The company started out in 1969 and since then they have distinguished themselves with innovative products such as the Aguila mini shells. To narrow things down, lets talk about ideal projectiles and powders. If you want 300 blk to feed properly use this method; Mark your bullet ogive at .250 with a sharpie. This will help you to figure out which features to look for when shopping for ammo. The HP American Gunner line of ammunition includes a series of proven, versatile loads that have proven popular for target shooting, hunting, and self-defense. Home formed RP 223 case, Magtech 7 1/2 primers. of Copper Sulfate on hand. Hornady and Nosler loads listed are near maximum so check your manuals. I used a Leupold Mark 4 MR/T 1.5-5x20mm optic for all accuracy testing. The top features of this subsonic 200-grain 300 Blackout ammo are the performance when suppressed and the heavy bullets. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. Though, I don't plan on using it for 110-130gr especially once I obtain some H110. I have Lil' Gun and Accurate 1680 on hand, and will start working from the minimum advertised charge and go down in .5 gr increments. Speer Gold dots have a flat base and the Speer data goes up to 20 grains. 220 grain Sierra Matchking Lil Gun 9.0 1,149 1.1 Our list is a great place to start. I located 8 x 1 lb of IMR 4227 Power, 500 Berger 210 gr. Weve already hinted at the incredibly broad range of bullet weight and velocity that can be successfully fired from the same gun. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. It makes me interested in a 7.62x40, as the added capacity might let you get up to 53k psi and 2150-2200 fps with a 150 grain bullet from a 16" barrel. Required fields are marked *. Since the 300 AAC Blackout uses a cut down case, the ribs will be supporting the bullet itself, so the projectile has to be consistent with the expected dimensions, else feeding reliability will suffer. by jwb47 Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:36 pm, Post At 18 grains everything starts to wear out quicker and the load becomes dangerous. The testing showed them it was safe to load to high velocities and pressures. 125 graIn Sierra MatchKing H110 18.0 2,146 0.94 Sound speed is 1087 @ 32 degrees Fahrenheit . Shooting off the shelf 125gr bullets the two guns shoot just fine averaging 2050fps and 1960fps repectively. I shoot the 168 grain .308 out of 30-06 and 308 brass, so I was thinking about using 168 bullet in black out, any thoughts? I am glad they are updating higher and not lower. Fortunately, most of these are readily available. Nevertheless, these rounds stand out because you can't find a round with more consistent ballistics. 300 yards -19.77 -4.16 But first, NEVER, EVER, EVER RELY ON LOAD DATA FROM SECONDHAND SOURCES LIKE THIS ARTICLE. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. I forgot to measure before destroying the targets on those! Ive tested many other rounds through my Red X .300 AAC Blackout upper and some work OK but none as well as the Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Speed of sound or Mach 1.0 is 1115 fps at standard conditions of 59F and 29.92 inches of mercury. These rounds work best with a pistol-length gas system and an adjustable gas block. Lil' Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. Hunting, Lapua 200-grain SP Mega and Cutting Edge Bullets 230-grain Subsonic Raptor. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. The muzzle velocity is 1950 fps and the muzzle energy is 1266. With the broad range of bullet weights and velocities, you may never settle on your own standard load. I get that. Feb 24, 2020 I am currently working on a subsonic load for a 300 blackout. If you reload ammunition, getting a 300 AAC Blackout rifle may very well ruin your family life. For all testing, I used the same rifle this Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 AAC Blackout equipped with a SilencerCo / SWR Specwar 762 suppressor. I got caught by the tinkering bug on His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. You can't really go wrong with Hornady. It seems like the 300 AAC could do the same at similar ranges. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. So far, all the factory subsonic ammo Ive tried, with the exception of Cooper Cartridge 245 grain lead bullets, runs fine in this particular carbine length rifle. 135 Grain Sierra MatchKing IMR 4227 18.3 2,075 N/A it has been the most consistent powder, both sunsonic and suoersonic, I have ever used. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post The process is too much to go into here, but its not that big a deal. 200 yards -4.18 +1.43 As others have said the M80 pulled bullets aren't very consistent on both length and weight. In fact, it is difficult to find a more versatile rifle round. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. : Ive shot a bunch of 168 grain Sierra MatchKings and its a great plinking / target round. Lbs,Note,OAL,Twist Rate . A couple of dozen projectile weights Its a different caliber with its own merits. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Manufacturers don't tend to appear more than once in our guides without reason. Fiocchi was founded in 1876 in Italy. 245 grain Cooper Cartridge Hard Cast 1,058 N/A. The idea of evaluating your personal shooting needs is a recurring theme when getting advice on ammo selection. Long barrel 300BLK is near pointless IMO, you can find other rounds that outperform it handily in the same platform, with same length barrels. In addition, Lil Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. Hornady fmj-bt, since they are relatively inexpensive. Later I got the 6 lbs of H110 from a guy on Backpage and I had Thunderbird T680 (military version of AA1680) already for subsonics (it is about perfect for 30 C Carbine too which is what I used it for originally). NOTE: YOU ABSOLUTELY UNCONDITIONALLY HAVE TO HAVE A CASE GAGE! They also provide a low flash signature to keep your position concealed. You can sort the brass, but most acquired examples of LC head stamps have date stamps covering several years you can spend days just putting together a reasonable amount of like years, and still not have batch consistency. . Imagine trying to design a ballistic compensation scope for a cartridge that can use 110 grain projectiles traveling at 2,400 feet per second AND 245 grain projectiles traveling at 950 feet per second. I used CCI 400 small rifle primers for all of them to cut out at least one variable. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. by phils3 Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:11 pm, Post These are supersonic rounds with 125-grain bullets. Lbs,MAX Grains,MAX Velocity,Ft. The 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip is a great hunting round and performed very well in numerous loads for accuracy. Just for kicks, I tested a few factory loads for velocity and accuracy too: Load Velocity (feet per second) Accuracy (MOA) As long you know what you want the weight / velocity combination for, those work really well. Your email address will not be published. Supposed to help reduce Lead Fouling. right now Im elbow deep in 9mm trying to work up a match load that will work in my colt competition and beretta 92 for the up coming uspsa matches this spring. Unfortunately, the majority of all 7.6239 cases are made of steel and feature a Berdan Primer. Shooting with a suppressor increases backpressure and helps cycling alot too. VDL. Next Last. Yea, I got tired of the big $ 30 cal slugs too.. so I bought a Lyman #311334, 190gr spitzer mold back when I was 16. Supersonic loads of lil'gun work fine in my 14.5" carbine gas rifle. Unfortunately, thats the one near impossible to find recently. On the supersonic side, lets compare bullet drop of a 300 Blackout specific projectile like the Barnes TAC-TX 110 grain bullet to a 55 grain .223 Remington projectile traveling at 3,240 feet per second. Rifles are not always the best choice for home defense weapons, but that is also largely dependent on the environment, location, and other key factors. Hornady is one of the nation's most recognized ammunition brands. Thanks for reading. I am not sure how it would work with the 150's, but maybe it will work. smitters. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. by 20X11 Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:25 am, Post He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. Loaded 13.3 gr 4227 and CCI 400 primers with Berger 210 gr. These mid-weight full metal jacketed bullets give you excellent supersonic performance. With Sig Sauer, you know that the attention to quality and precision can't be beaten. Similar problems have been experienced with 9mm submachine guns. The 16.5 grains of H110 at 16.5 is moderate. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. Seat bullet so that sharpie mark is on the middle of the mag bump. On the other hand, if youre a reloader, its a tinkerers paradise. The aac-sd with 110gr Sierra varmint bullets will shoot a clover leaf group but with that being said the 300blk is the most temp sensitive cartridge Ive ever fired Ill stick with 6.8 for deer. Start well above subsonic and work down to 1050 with a chronograph. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Loaded 13.3 gr 4227 and CCI 400 primers with 245 gr Missouri Bullet FP Hard Lead. The bullets feature a unique design. As a footnote, my opinion of the .300 AAC Blackout round is that it is the .22S (short) version of the .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO round. The 300 Blackout emerged from the 5.56 NATO cartridge as a specialized caliber ideal for suppressed use during spec ops. The higher the grain the quieter the round when suppressed. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. If youre a gun geek, get a copy! She has been named as a co-host on Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor Channel. They are based in Nebraska and have been around since 1949. 10 or 12 powder quantities for each type of powder Hey, what's wrong with a well worn duster or a trench coat to conceal our BIG pistols? In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. It is designed to work no matter whether your AR features direct impingement, a gas piston, a suppressor, or a variety of other options. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. The one thing that I HATED to do was to scrap .223 Rem/5.56 NATO brass because it was too short, deformed, or the neck split! That isnt to say you have to buy a specific type of ammo for everything you want to do with your 300 Blackout rifle. This is going to be fun. by plant.one Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:44 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. How about a 208, 220 or even 245 grain projectile moving at 1,000 feet per second or less? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. For hunting, I would ask others to chime in, but if you have a 168 grain bullet that is designed to perform at the velocity youre going to get, that should be an option too. These rounds are sure not to disappoint. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. Love tinkering with different bullets and powders. I personally, and after reading a lot on 300blktalk, determined that Lil-Gun was potentially a better powder for the mid weight loads. 135 Grain Sierra MatchKing Lil Gun 17.5 2,093 1.42 Celebrate diversity! I ended up using Lil' Gun powder, for my sub loads with the hornady 150gr fmj/bt. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. If it turned out to that CFE 223 could fill that role that would be the best of all worlds. Check out more blackout data: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. If I want to shoot a thirty caliber projo I'll stuff it into a .308 or .30-06. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Hodgdon uses a 16" barrel for it's 300 Blackout velocity/pressure tests. If there is any company you can rely on for quality, it is Sig Sauer. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip H110 17.5 2,150 1.37 These rounds have been tested to meet or exceed the FBI's terminal ballistic test requirements. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. The top features are the various innovations in the projectile design. The ballistic coefficient is .290 and the sectional density is .166. Im currently shooting a. speedy 125 g and hitting targets consistently at 350 yards I was wondering if someone had a suggestion for subsonic rounds for my 300 blackout I havent tried any yet but I am up for suggestions so I wont be purchasing many different types of rounds. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. The one Ive been using is carbine length. Lil'Gun is my super powder. .30 caliber bullets are available in all weights. Then bullet weight and bullet style will be key factors to consider. It shot the best group with the "middle of the road" powder load of 19.5 grains. I use 1680 for subs in 300bo, but i use a 220gr bullet. And in shorter barrel lengths (~8) the 300BLK is far superior for supersonics, at least. Lil Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. They use unique, cutting-edge loading methods to ensure top-class performance and consistency. FP Hard lead. Mike has a passion for innovation and education across the industry to create great content, training, and insights from the best and brightest. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Im just north of Sandpoint, Idaho and at 2300 foot elevation Ive found my suppressor works well on a warm (80+deg) day with loads upto 1140 fps, so dont forget the elevation factor in local conditions. This ammo comes in boxes of fifty rounds. If you dont have a chronograph, then this is not something to play with until you do. At a Glance: Our Top Picks for 300 Blackout Ammo. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Aguila hails from Morelos, Mexico. This ammo expands upon the inherent reliability advantages of the 300 Blackout to offer excellent impact and accuracy. I want to use Hornady 150gr BTSP bullets, but cant find any data to support that. by BobinNC Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 pm, Post It is a Swiss-German collaboration founded in 1979. As to powders I've used AA 1680,Hodgdons H-110 and Lil Gun,of those three so far Lil Gun stands out as to performance and accuracy. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. I'm actually working with a wildcat 30 Herrett AR round now, which is the 30 Herret made from 6.8 SPC brass, to function in an AR15. by dpete Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:57 pm, Post The velocity for the 150 grain bullet is 1940, which is around 100 fps less than Lil Gun, but the pressure is only 33k psi. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. In cold weather, 10F, 1088 + (10-32)= 1066 fps. 300 AAC Blackout 110 Grain Barnes TAC-TX, 2,350 fps .223 Remington 55 grain, 3,100 fps, 100 yards +0.73 +1.57 Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. Heres what I found. AR platform, 8" Wilson Combat barrel, standard gas port size and gas block, obviously pistol lenght gas system, 1-7" twist. tgilbert851@gmail.com. by cwlongshot Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:41 pm, Post There are plenty of options that match the versatility of the rifle. The best feature is the quality of all the components used. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Here in S.C. To hunt coyotes at night you have to use a sub sonic round. You can buy ready-to-go 300 Blackout brass or you can make your own from .223 brass. Then started the task of measuring out different powder loads with W296 into 5 cases for 5 test loads that I will shoot this week so I can finally get to loading a lot of plinking rounds. No more spilled shot or bulged cases. Only use load data from a printed manual from a reputable manufacturer. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. As you can see, you could spend the rest of your life testing different iterations within this caliber. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. I'm also using 15gr Lil-gun with the Hornady 150gr flat base soft points. I have used some M80 pulled 147 Grain bullets and while they shot, they were not exactly accurate. On a hot day, 100F, 1088 + (100-32)= 1156 fps. ddd oo7, what 220gr bullets are you loading? She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. In 300 blk I prefer Lil'Gun over H-110 for bullets over 135 grs. Home defense and hog hunting, however, are two standouts to excel with suppression. Long grooves in the gilt metal jacket combine with the bullet's flat profile to guarantee expansion. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Just curious, as my only reason for the 150's is that they are inexpensive. Each bullet is tested for consistency in weight and quality. by skeetman77 Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:53 pm, Post Along came the .300 AAC Blackout = the answer to my angst of scraping that brass! Im thinking that your loads that are N/A are such. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. How Fast do Bucks React and Recover From Hunting Pressure? After three tries abandoned the test. If I'm doing the ogive method correctly then my COAL is 2.095. From Hodgdons burn rate chart: 54 Alliant 2400 55 Ramshot Enforcer 56 Accurate Arms No. Hornady is one of the top ammunition manufacturers worldwide. The bullets are Sierra Match King projectiles. 110 grain Hornady V-MAX 2,435 2.45 Each round is loaded using cutting-edge electromechanical monitoring for perfect alignment and concentricity. I gave away about 2000 rounds of 300 blackout brass. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Lil Gun 17.5 2,198 1.74 The recommended OAL for a 210 SMK is 2.120, and the Barnes is likely fairly long for weight so you may have to . I would go with 2400 or AA#9 if you look at the load data from accurate.com for 300 blk, Ramshot Enforcer and AA4100 are the exact same powder. Ballistically they are similar but the case dimensions are very different and load data cannot be reliably interchanged. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Reloadable boxer brass is also in abundance. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. It shot the best group with the middle of the road powder load of 19.5 grains. I have a 16" barrel with a pistol length gas system. These will be plinking rounds only. When you tried the 8.5gr , did you try it in your 8.5 barreled gun too? 16g just happened to give me great groups and no pressure signs so I stuck there. This contributes to a combination of both accuracy and terminal performance. I have a 10.5 barrel on a pistol that I plan to shoot supersonic only (for now) I have a Dillon 550 press with limited experience reloading .223 rounds for my AR. Its on the lighter side of the range of 300 AAC Blackout bullets, so its intended for the higher end supersonic performance. My results are as much as 700fps slower than the books say they should be. Pattern was tight but down and to the left about 3 inches. I am using CMMG 8" barrel. An Infamous round created by the Advanced Armament Corp in partnership with Remington in order to allow a .30 caliber to be used with an M4 with nothing more than a barrel exchange. Stick with published data only, the only exception is it is safe to reduce charges by up to 20% on your own, unless you are loading a large capacity case with a slow burning powder, that is the only situation you need to worry about squibs. Any idea where to start? LIL' GUN VS Acurate 1680 The Hodgdon reloading data center said to load from 18.9 to 20 grains of Lil Gun so I loaded five rounds in .1 increments and headed to the range. Always go with reputable manufacturers to avoid this problem. The reason I don't subscribe to these shenanigans is that you'll still have to fight your way to your rifle and having a seven pound pistol slapping your leg ain't gonna help with that. The ribs on .223 magazines are sized to support the necks on .223 / 5.56mm cartridge cases. Someone please check my numbers. These rounds are quiet even if fired without a suppressor. Then ballistic coefficient and velocity will be important. In terms of powder choices, youll use powders in the faster half of the burn rate spectrum, like H110, Lil Gun, Accurate 1680 and IMR 4227. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Lets see dozens, times dozens, times dozens carry the one I count 17 billion load combinations required to do a full velocity and accuracy analysis. I'm still fuzzy on the ogive method but will not proceed until I'm clearly understanding it. I don't own a suppressor. Hava a few lbs. Theres entirely too much tinkering potential. Shame to waste 150 gr SST pills in 300 BLK loads. (I.E. This makes the 300 Blackout an outstanding home defense round. ? Yep, essentially the same ballistics, or very close, depending on barrel length. . One of the biggest complaints about the 300 AAC Blackout cartridge is the cost and limited availability of factory ammunition. Safety Warning for Berger 77 grain OTM Tactical Ammunition: Pressure Testing Update, Small Pistol Primers $76 per K - Free shipping @ $150, 556 green tips steel core 62 grain into three water jugs today, Turkish made Sterling 9mm 115 grain stuck in the chamber swollen brass around the bullet base, CMP releases surplus 1911 information, prices, Beretta M9 Hogue Cocobolo checkered grips, RS Regulate AK-300 Modular Upper Optic Mount (30mm), WTT Fender MIM Player Precision Bass Guitar, CZ P10S, OLight mini, HBI Theta Trigger in bag, Vedder LightTuck, LockLeather OWB Holster, 3 Hyve +3 extentions, 4 mags. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! The lower the grain the faster the round and the harder it hits. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. I have been using IMR-4227, which shot fairly well, functioned well (with Silencerco Hybrid 46), but I was getting a good amount of unburned powder in the receiver/bolt. Ah, too many picadillos for me! If anything, average groups tightened up a bit, so I just left it on for all of the testing. Velocities for 110 V-max is 2370 fps, 125 BT's at 2157 fps, and 147 FMJ around 1950-1970 fps. Join the #1 community for gun owners of the Northwest. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. Will the BO push those Sierra 150gr BTHP fast enough to be effective? It has digested all rounds I have put through it without one hiccup. I am currently working on a subsonic load for a 300 blackout. This line gives you 2200 fps of muzzle velocity and 1343 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. I never had a problem with it in two 16" barrels with carbine gas systems using 110-130 grain bullets. An agile, short-barreled M4 carbine in 300 Blackout addresses the deficiencies of both. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. The powder used in these rounds burns cleanly and the primers are reliable. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. One 16 rifle and a 10.5 pistol both are carbine length gas systems. Thread Starter Mygrainman; Start date Sep 28, 2017; Tags blackout fun 1; 2; Next. The terrain in Southern Idaho often requires a hunter to be able to take shots at 400 yards and well beyond. The value for money factor is also high with this one, it is a great type of ammo to stock up on. If youre not familiar with that, a minute of angle is just over one inch at 100 yards, so, for example, 1.5 MOA is just about a 1.5 inch group at 100 yards. 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