Shot placement is much easier for a hunting weight rifle 8-91/2 lbs in .264 WinMag than a .3xx Rumchester Mag for the vast majority of us hunters. However, it doesnt handle projectiles heavier than 180 grains as well as other magnums. Mag. Bullet went in front of the close shoulder, hit the heart/lungs, and than hit the ball joint in the off side shoulder and shattered it. Mag. Are You blued steel, 1 inch & fine wood or are you Kevlar, carbon, stainless, 30-34mm?. Barrel length is important to the .264 Win. Yes - historically. Zero333 Aug 12, 2020 #12 Laguna Freak said: Bought my first 264 , a Rem 700 in 1964. Which one, only your rifle will tell you. . Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. If you load it has some mighty good new bullets we didn't have back then. A cartridge that starts a slippery bullet with plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability. They shoot really well. Countless Elk have been taken with the .264 and game of this size should be considered the common sense upper limit when working to the .264's strengths. Have taken several truck loads of game with it. Make sure to watch till the end. Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE! Would I do it again..? Today, the 7mm Rem. Dropping a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. Feb 21, 2015 #8 OP elkeaterco WKR Joined I never kept another one in a deer. It's like a quite round that is not flash or get a lot of attention, but hits a sweet spot that is often over looked. Its superb on elk to 350 yards or a bit more in the hands of a very good rifleman. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. The Winchester 140-grain factory load is also pretty good. The bullet with the lowest expansion threshold is Nosler Accubond Long Range, which expands starting at 1300 fps. Mine likes the 142's and RL 33. Mag., the .338 Win. font-weight: bold; A new stainless feather weight M70 in 264 will be available this fall. It offers shocking good performance in a beltless, standard-length case and is becoming the go-to, extreme-range hunting cartridge. It performed excellent and retained around 60% of it's weight if I remember right. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Just like the title says is it a good choice. I have a box of Winchester .264 mag cartridges sitting on my bench. border-style: solid; .264 win mag - PredatorMasters Forums Techniques Reviews Sponsors Free Stuff PM Gear Moon & Weather Members Articles Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Predator Masters.Com The Official Predator Masters Search Engine Search Predator Masters Damn elk are tough! when I was a kid and poor I always wanted a 264 win. Mature bulls have heavy bones, dense muscle, and loads of resilience from years of shrugging off battle wounds. font-size: 18px; First off if you have at least a 26" barrel on your rifle the muzzle velocity will be much better than that listed in most data because it is done mostly with 24" barrels. Mag., though Remington did feature the cartridge in the Model 700 Classic at one point (and those rifles are reputed to shoot very well). Nomo, all of those powders you listed will work. Carried 160 Woodleigh PP over H1000. Unless you can train as a sniper time and money wiseyour initial intuition was correct. mag . Big cartridges provide forgiving margins of error. It is not a .35 Whelen. Hunting is supposed to be fun and if that is your idea of fun, you could probably have even more of it with a .378 Weatherby. Follow up on this. Yes, it lacks one of the three virtues vital to great elk cartridges. 264 Winchester Magnum; 27 Nosler; 270 Weatherby Magnum; 270 winchester ammo; 270 winchester short magnum; 275 Rigby; Still, reasonable maximum-accuracy life expectancy is around 700 to 1,000 rounds. A good marksman will not squeeze the trigger unless he believes it will work. Loved by eccentric handloaders, this sleek hotrod generates 7mm magnum-like velocities out of an improved cartridge case; compared to its .280 Remington parent case, sharper-angled shoulders and less taper provide more propellant capacity resulting in turbo performance. font-size: 18px; First, the average bullet weight is encapsulated in the average muzzle energy for the .264 Winchester Magnum. Im not an elk hunter, but I have followed this page for years and have seen a lot of people on here and other places harvest elk. JavaScript is disabled. "A real death ray" he said. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. The third assumption is that a projectile with appropriate terminal ballistics is being used, which for hunting usually means an expanding bullet. Though it's more than a half-century old, the .264 Winchester Magnum is one of the few niche cartridges that is as yet unsurpassed by the motley assortment of modern magnums. The average 130-grain .277-diameter bullet struggles to achieve a BC of much more than 0.450, while even a moderately aerodynamic 140-grain .264 bullet approaches 0.500, and a streamlined one, such as Berger's 140-grain Hunting VLD, offers an astonishing 0.612. Good for you. I mentioned that a bullet may not perform well under 2,000 fps. Bullet placement is everything. text-align: center It still will shoot under an inch. The retained weight will be higher than the jacketed bullet, thus during the impact will act like a heavier bullet than the 140g. Berger states "1:8" minimum", minimum being key. overflow: hidden; That can easily make my practical distance come down to 250-yards. Mag. is a legitimate niche cartridge that does what it does better than any other American cartridge. Never , never shoot 5 shot groups. Depending on bullet type and construction, the minimum expansion velocity for rifles falls between about 1300 and 2000 fps. It requires a true magnum-length action, and is hard on barrels. Sectional density says . You are using an out of date browser. The Bigger Question is, whats YOUR maximum? Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. Elk Decoys; Goose Decoys; Moose Decoys; Predator Decoys; Turkey Decoys; . Ik heb dit aan de verhuurder laten weten met de mededeling dat ik de eerstvolgende maand 150 minder huur zou betalen. The accurate answer is it depends. Happy Trails. He averaged 1 1/2 shots per animal. It almost equals the .300 Ultra Mag, and does it with a whole lot less gunpowder. . There is also a metric shit ton of bullets that didnt exist long ago that could make this one hell of a hunting round. Mag.and does it in a short-action platform. Mag. to those guys that make a living with them and stay in shape to ENJOY CARRYING 15 LBS AROUND. The E-Tip bullet is another great option for deep penetration. chronod berger 140's at an average of 3080 fps on the now "mild" loads. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. .tg .tg-sklq { Mag. Unlike the predecessors .458, .264 and .338 Winchester Magnums it has a longer case and a rather short neck (.264") in order to increase the case capacity. border-collapse: collapse; Every post you see about the 6.5 Creedmor declare it plenty for elk, if shot placement is right, if the angle is good, I don't see why a 264wm(6.5mm) wouldn't do the trick. Pretty darn confident to use it to fill all of the tags this year, including the cow elk. Mag. Mag. handload betters even the 7mm Rem. vertical-align: top There are quite a few variables that all work to decrease the true potential of a rifle. JavaScript is disabled. Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. The 264 was designed for one thing, western elk at long ranges. have tough rows to hoe since they've been around since the 1960s and haven't exactly caught fire. Shaw barrels), A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Mag. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? owners the advantages of increased velocity and the dramatically better ballistic coefficients gained by a heavier projectile of smaller diameter. Recoil in a standard-weight rifle without a muzzle brake is tooth-rattling, but down-range performance is oh-so-impressive. With proper loading, it can outperform the .270 Win., 7mm Rem. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. The second important assumption is slightly-suboptimal to optimal shot placement. Its phenomenally accurate, pushes aerodynamic projectiles with high sectional densities at reasonable velocities that dont tear bullets to shreds on impact, recoils little, and has proven more capable than it has any right to be. load drops only 29 inches at 500 yards and 109 inches at 800. Of all the costs involved in hunting what is the price of a Box of 50 bullets cost ? Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. and 6.5 PRC, but the 6.5-.284 Norma still provides significantly more velocity than the 6.5 Creedmoor. Superformance is safe to use in ALL firearms, including semi-autos, lever gun and pump actions. Another limiting point is how well you judge distance. border-color: black; Do you plan to hit every animal with a rangefinder? Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Pick a Marlin M1895 or a Winchester Model 1886 and hunt happy in the knowledge that youve got bull-thumping wallop in every thumb-sized cartridge. . A common thread you may encounter in online forums is anecdote after anecdote of large animals being brought down by small caliber bullets, or small animals surviving large caliber bullets. My preference is a 20" barreled .308 win with 165 grain pills. Heavier bullets of greater diameter. Good luck on yours, its a great calibre. In essence, good elk cartridges drive tough, heavy bullets of healthy diameter, and drive em fast. text-align: left; Description. unseated the .264 Winchester Magnum rather quickly, becoming the darling of Western hunters. At the moment of truth, if you arent sure you will make a good shot, dont squeeze the trigger. What is the average muzzle energy for a .264 Winchester Magnum? Pick a good bullet, shoot accurately, and enjoy the fine dining elk provides. The bullet holds together well, and though I've never shot truly big game, such as a mature bull elk or moose, with it, I've heard that it performs well. To my mind the .300s and .338s make better elk and zebra . With the right bullet, a .270 will put down any bull walking the earth today. Are You blued steel, 1 inch & fine wood or are you Kevlar, carbon, stainless, 30-34mm?. The .264 Winchester Magnum showed up 62 years ago, and the .260 Remington is a quarter-century old. What is the average weight of an adult male elk? Just use a bullet that holds together and will dig deep with the .264 and enjoy the hunt. Use 0.199" for length of plastic tip. If I add to that a gusty 25 mph wind, Im not shooting past 200 yards. And the bigger they get, the tougher they become. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Shots near the max effective range can totally miss the animal if you misjudge the distance by 50-yards. 0. Partition Bullet RMEF Team Elk Ad 1 Nosler Engineering Die Dual-Core-Speziallegierung von Nosler aus speziellem Blei bietet hervorragende Pilzeigenschaften bei praktisch allen Aufprallgeschwindigkeiten. 3-groove barrels are reputed to last a little longer than barrels with more grooves. See the handy tear-out on page 54 for more details. Is this round (bullet) sufficient for Elk? Just curious, are you loading the 156's anywhere near or over the max load? Best bullets are the 7mm 155- to 175-grainers, and the .30-caliber 180- to 200-grainers. Shot him thru the neck at 175 years and down he went. If the demand were not there it would not be produced. For big game hunting precise shot placement is critical no matter the cartridge, and its damn hard to place a shot precisely when you know youre going to get smacked hard enough to loosen your teeth and knock out your boogers. It'll maintain nearly 100% of its weight and plow an impressive furrow. He dropped in his tracks, then stood back up facing away. The Winchester M70 Extreme Weather chambered for the 264 Win.Mag has a 9" twist. Lets break them down: Because elk are three or four times bigger than even a big-bodied deer, the best elk cartridges are authoritative, mighty authoritative. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. You must log in or register to reply here. Mag and the .458 Win. I shot the Leopard with 140 Partitions but the 120 Barns TTSX is my go to bullet. Mag. The 7mm Remington Magnum will send a 160-grain bulleta good all-around choice for nearly all North American gameat 3000 fps. Toen ik mijn vorige kamer huurde moest ik ook 150 contractkosten betalen, waarna iemand me erop wees dat dit illegaal is. For all intents and purposes, the 6.5x68 is a ballistic equivalent cartridge to the 264 WM, but gains an extra 100-200 fps with similar bullets. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. 100% of dead elk surveyed couldn't tell if it was a .277, .264, .284, .308 or whatever caliber bullet it was that hit 'em. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. The 6.5-300 Weatherby, which requires a . It slipped into a coma in the mid-1960s and has been at death's door ever since. Just as importantly, it delivers plenty of punch on far-distant impacts. Although its new on the block, this cartridge is the best-engineered hunting 7mm available. Its all highly situational, but it matters. Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .264 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .264 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting. Every good elk cartridge has three primary characteristics: authority, reach, and good bullets. With deer-size game on the menu, there is absolutely nothing flatter shooting or with more carrying ability. If you can hack the recoil, it offers truly impressive energy. You are using an out of date browser. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. Re: 264 Win Mag for hunting, what do you think. A rule of thumb I use is if an animal is walking, shots need to be twice as close. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; Youre also not going to shoot as well on a moving animal. It is still the fastest, flattest light-medium bore available. "So much of this business of hunting turkeys, you stupid it up right at the last. I'd look elsewhere IMHO, but you could buy it and then keep looking. one of my favorite places. You may be able to use a heavier bullet and achieve more energy or a longer range with more velocity.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_5',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Since were talking about max distances, Id like to clarify something here. But, you dont want to get too close to that minimum expansion velocity. 6.5 CM, 260, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 SAUM yours, all have killed elk. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. If you hunt massive-bodied Roosevelt bulls in the rain forests of the Northwest, or pine clad ridges and canyon bottoms anyplace where 200 yards is a long shot, this is a prime cartridge. Zo gezegd, zo gedaan en heb er nooit meer wat van gehoord. It will work. . padres hats. I think he is shooting a 140 Berger, but not totally sure on that. You do everything right for an hour and a half, and then you sit down here and there's nothing you can do about it, you made a mistake.". It wouldn't be my first choice, but I wouldn't feel handicapped with one provided I used the right bullet. But wait, theres more. What does this mean? BTW, 264 WM and Berger bullets seem like kind of an odd combination in my book, unless this a coyote rig. In general, a bullets maximum effective range is the distance at which it no longer travels fast enough to reliably expand when it hits a target. For deer, sheep, antelope I think it would be a sweet rifle-little argument there-however heard mixed info on its adequacy for elk inside of 500 yards. Shop HAMSKEA RAPTOR PEEP HOUSING - Ontario's best family-owned hunting & fishing store with 24 hour access indoor gun range, indoor archery range & outdoor gear. Tapered Copper-Alloy Jacket For lethal penetration and uniform expansion with maximum weight-retention and minimal barrel fouling. I know there a couple forum member on here who use them. Our mission is to educate and entertain along the lines of bowhunting and rifle hunting to provide sportsmen with the most up-to-date tactics, hunting gear and hunting area research for both archery hunting and rifle hunting in the West. You might have a superhuman ability to place accurate shots under heavy recoil. Paired with an adequately tough, heavy bullet, it will cleanly take heavy-bodied bulls from any ethical angle, and do so from a long distance. I've shot a lot of animals with a 140gr bullet at around 3000fps. I use a Federal ballistic tip in my 308 for whitetails that I wouldn't use for elk because it seems a bit too fragile based on the deer I've taken with it. Might be a consideration in something like a 264 WM. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. At my home elevation of 5,000 feet, calculated with a temperature of 50 degrees and 50 percent humidity, with all loads zeroed at 200 yards, we get the following ballistic projections: The .264 Win. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Mag. A 264 needs slow burning powder, anything faster than H-4831 is to fast for the 264 with 140gr bullets. Probably not.. 3400+ from a 24" Bbl. Mag. Initially chambered in Winchester's "Westerner" Model 70, it was meant to fill the needs of far-shooting mule deer and elk hunters. That means a considerable amount of the game was taken with "1" shot. As far as ammo goes, both Winchester and Remington still produce .264 Win. memtb. JavaScript is disabled. bulletswith most weighing between 75 and 85 grs.purpose-built for varmint and predator hunting are widely available, though rapid throat erosion and the cumulative effect of felt recoil preclude the 257's use on a prairie dog town. Win. So why is it included? Offering the perfect balance of tremendous energy, large frontal diameter, ballistic efficiency, and long barrel life, the .338 has garnered disciples among rifle savants such as F&S own David E. Petzal. For 125 years 6.5's have been taking all manner of game world wide including moose in Scandinavia. Lots of folks like .30-caliber magnums for elk hunting, and they work exceptionally well. If a 150 gr. UPS has officially stopped shipping guns? Though not quite as aerodynamic in shape, and sporting a good bit of exposed lead at the nose, impact result on deer-size game is typically spectacular. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; The .264 Win will do fine. The 264 mag. Behind the Bullet: .264 Winchester Magnum. Little things that you may never have noticed can make a shot fail if you are really pushing the limits. I think there are only about 5 respondents that have personal experience with the .264 WIn Mag. Attacking the 264 shows just how much popularity it is gaining. .tg td { Shooting an elk with one, however, is about like shooting a gopher with a .30/06. Be intentional and smart with each shot. developed a reputation as a wounder because ammo companies and handloaders were stoking it with light, thin-jacketed projectiles meant for 757 Mauser speeds. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. As an owner of a .264 Winchester Magnum, Craig Boddington's article on using a .264 Winchester Magnum in Africa was interesting. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. In this post, well look in-depth into that question. Eastmans is a three generation media based hunting company whose goal is to promote the pursuit of elk hunting, deer hunting and all western big game. Mag., the .300 Win. You see Winchester producing several versions of their rifles in the 264 mag. Youtube is full of those videos. 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